SurfaceAgentX2Zero
6:58 Wed Oct 29
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gph
Where did I say front line soldiers never see action? Nowhere. So that would be a fib then. Naughty.
I have just pointed out how unlikely your Grandad's tale is and that it an oft-repeated story. You have been unable to verify it. As such, you are left with 'bloke down pub said'. Naughty.
Anyone would have thought you made it up entirely to add veracity to your wrong-headed, leftie interpretation of the causes of WW1. Naughty.
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gph
6:53 Wed Oct 29
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Family history independently corroborated by the magazine itself.
On top of this, I think someone in the family may have the bit of metal fished out his chest. My Mum showed it to me thirty odd years ago, although I don't remember seeing it in her effects.
Anyway, your main objection is still boils down the absurd idea that non-frontline soldiers never see action. Without it, you have nothing.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
6:31 Wed Oct 29
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gph 6:15 Wed Oct 29
'I've told you where you can find Herbert Bishop's war story'
Erm. You've told me it is somewhere in John Bull Magazine 1906-1957 Hardly precise instructions.
And now you concede the story is entirely hearsay. Family myth, in fact.
Like I said, no disrespect to your Grandad...
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dealcanvey
6:28 Wed Oct 29
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normannomates 11:32 Tue Oct 28
Unless I'm going mad he would of been around 70 when he was injured in 1916?
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Eddie B
6:18 Wed Oct 29
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My great great uncle, Henry Ireson, of the Essex Regiment, died on 19th September 1918, and is buried in Ramleh War Cemetary in Israel.
Son of John and Mary Ireson, of Dodds Cottages, Rainham, Essex.
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gph
6:15 Wed Oct 29
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I've told you where you can find Herbert Bishop's war story.
The fact you can't be arsed to do it is not evidence that it didn't happen.
(I don't know why you won't read John Bull - it's the kind of antiquated Jingoistic shit you'd enjoy)
My Granddad didn't get to pull my pisser as he died when my Mum was two. Due to single pneumonia.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
6:00 Wed Oct 29
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gph 2:22 Wed Oct 29
'The thing about frontlines is that they move around, and suddenly what wasn't the frontline becomes the frontline.'
You don't know much about the static nature of WW1 do you? Apart from the first 6 months, when there were fuck all British aeroplanes in action, and the last 6 months, when 17 airfields were evacuated without a fight when threatened the front lines were almost entirely static.
I suspect your old Grandad was pulling your pisser, since the 'saved by hip-flask/cigarette case/ bible/John Bull in the breast pocket' story is as old as the hills. Perhaps, I'm wrong - perhaps he's the bloke all those stories are based on.
I'm not impugning your Grandad, he did his bit bravely and losing a lung to pneumonia is just as bad as anything else. Him taking the piss out of you about it makes him an even better bloke in my eyes.
It's not QUITE so effective a way of justifying your snotty leftie snark about the causes of WW1, though.
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stoneman
3:42 Wed Oct 29
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My Great Uncle Frederick was killed when HMS Bulwark blew up in Sheerness on November 25th 1914.
Over 700 died.
His name is on 3 monuments in his home village of Slindon, Sheerness and on the Royal Navy memorial in Southsea.
His body like those off another 400 was never found.
One of the many millions who lost their lives.
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Mike 36
3:09 Wed Oct 29
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My Great Grandad's name is being read out (along many others) tomorrow at the Tower c. 5pm. I didn't know this but you can apply to have this done, is done every day around that time.
He died in Oct 1918, nearly made it...
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Turan
2:29 Wed Oct 29
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Yip a Gallipoli Star which I have framed up.
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gph
2:22 Wed Oct 29
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For some reason, you seem to doubt my Granddad lost a lung because he wasn't on the frontline.
The thing about frontlines is that they move around, and suddenly what wasn't the frontline becomes the frontline.
I haven't got the slightest military experience, yet this is so blindingly obvious to me that I question the intelligence or sincerity of anyone who seemingly doesn't understand it.
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norwaytips
2:06 Wed Oct 29
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Both my grandfathers fought in WWl. I have no medals, but I do have a brass ashtray, that my paternal grandfather made, from a brass shell cap.
I also remember him well and that's enough for me.
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tanman
1:05 Wed Oct 29
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My great grandad was in the 1st WW. I have the two standard issue medals which were given to me by my Grandad. One is Silver in colour with a orange,white and blue fabric attached (what is the technicla term?) and the other a brown colour with a more colourful type fabric attached. Must have been so many commissioned I doubt they are worth much - not that I would sell them anyway.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:21 Wed Oct 29
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gph 11:25 Wed Oct 29
Are you inviting me to read every issue of John Bull from 1906-1957? If so, I'll pass.
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Aalborg Hammer
11:54 Wed Oct 29
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My dad’s cousin, Felix , was in the Ambulance Brigade and was gassed while picking up casualties. He died near the end of the war from the after effects. His brother was in the Durham Light Infantry and shot by a bullet that killed his mate next to him .He survived and I’m in touch with his son (same generation as me but 27 years older!)
There are two more of my Dad’s cousins on the Menin Gate, one served in the Rifle Brigade the other in the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry both missing in action.
My granddad was in the Royal Marines and at Gallipoli .His cousin was also there, unbeknown to him and died there fighting in the Essex regiment.
God love ‘em all.
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11:27 Wed Oct 29
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Maternal grandfather joined the Kings Royal Rifles, as did many East enders, was hit in the skull by sniper. Convelesced in Tipparary.
Wife's grandfather fought in the battle of Jutland. We lost more ships but the German surface fleet lost it's bottle for the rest of the war.
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gph
11:25 Wed Oct 29
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You don't know how to use the catalogue.
http://catalogue.bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?tabs=moreTab&ct=display&fn=search&doc=BLL01013929620&indx=8&recIds=BLL01013929620&recIdxs=7&elementId=7&renderMode=poppedOut&displayMode=full&frbrVersion=&fctN=facet_rtype&dscnt=0&rfnGrp=1&scp.scps=scope%3A%28BLCONTENT%29&fctV=journals&frbg=&tab=local_tab&dstmp=1414576825674&srt=rank&mode=Basic&vl(488279563UI0)=any&dum=true&tb=t&rfnGrpCounter=1&vl(freeText0)=John%20Bull&vid=BLVU1
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:17 Wed Oct 29
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gph 2:07 Wed Oct 29
The BM don't seem to have got round to cataloguing it.
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Dr Congo
11:13 Wed Oct 29
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Got Grandpa's two service medals + MM for bravery, and a local newspaper cutting reporting the award.
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gph
2:07 Wed Oct 29
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I don't have the details to hand, but when he was wounded it made the front page of John Bull magazine, as a folded copy of it was in his breast pocket when he was hit, and it supposedly saved his life.
Unusually, it's all documented.
They've got it in the British Library, if you really doubt that non-frontline soldiers sometimes ended up fighting.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:57 Wed Oct 29
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gph 12:45 Wed Oct 29
Were the airfields in WW1 not some miles behind the static lines of trenches?
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